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Celtics Morning Joe:Trade wasn't difficult for Ainge

Posted by shawn cassidy on July 16, 2013 at 5:00 AM



Danny Ainge didn't have a box of tissues by his side, but instead he had three jerseys ready to handout to three of the four newest members of the Boston Celtics. For years, Danny was tempted with the idea of rebuilding. He stayed with his core longer than most would have thought. I think it's hard to get the truth out of anyone, but it's hard to guess what happens to KG and Pierce if Doc returns. Danny wasn't going to waste anyone's time. His rebuilding effort is fully underway, and his ability to deal KG and Pierce together for another crack at a title together is special.


Boston Herald

“Instead of having a farewell tour this year and letting them go by the wayside, to be able to get the young players and draft picks, as hard as it is for some fans, as hard as it is for me to do when I care as much as I do about them, it was the right thing to do for the Celtics organization,” said Ainge. “It just softens the blow that they get to go together and play on a great team.”

The president of basketball operations sounded truly happy for the championship opportunity Pierce, Garnett and Terry are about to receive. All three will be introduced to the New York media Thursday.



This deal works out for both teams. It truly does, and that doesn't happen often. Danny was also showing some honesty with his new guys right there on the stage. He made it clear that the team is stocked with shooting guards, and even with bigs. Ainge isn't done yet, and we can look forward to more rumors, and other trade possibilities this summer.



Boston Herald

Ainge admittedly is in a very fluid situation. Any or all of the four remaining ex-Nets may not make it to the season opener as Celtics.

“Everything is in flux for the next few months,” said Ainge. “We have a little bit of a logjam at our big positions, and a little bit of a logjam at the shooting guard position. There’s decisions and choices we’ll have to make over the next few months.”


At the end of the day, and with all of Danny's picks, and the trade exception,and cap space next summer. I believe his intention is to stick with Rondo. Despite the deal that sent out KG and Pierce out. I believe deep down inside that Ainge is loyal. Look at how he treated Doc during the rough years, and how he stuck with him, and with Pierce. 


Boston Herald

He also doesn’t agree with that comparison.

“There’s a big difference,” he said. “Even though I did say that, and it would have been better for the Celtics overall in the ‘80s if we had done that, the difference is that Paul, KG and Ray (Allen) were playing at a much higher level than Kevin and Larry were playing in their 30s. Those guys didn’t even make it to their mid-30s.

“Larry had two Achilles tendon surgeries and a back surgery,” he said. “Kevin had the foot that never really got better after he had the surgeries on his foot. That’s why I was saying that. It’s apples and oranges as to who those guys were and these guys are, and the longevity and durability of their careers.”

Instead, Ainge said, he was prepared to bring back Pierce and Garnett for that farewell tour. The offer from Nets general manager Billy King was quite simply the first good offer Ainge received for his Hall of Fame duo.

“It makes me feel better. Paul and Jason Terry and Kevin Garnett mean a lot to me,” said Ainge. “They’re just great people. They’ve done a lot for our city. The fact they’ve been able to go together to a team will be an ideal fit for them. They won’t have to carry a heavy load with three other All-Stars on the team. They’ll have a great deal of depth. It’s pretty ideal for them.

“But collectively, individually, there were no better offers for us at any time over the last few years. So rather than have KG play one more year, and us not be the standard we used to be, and Paul with one year left, it definitely was the right move for us in trying to fast-forward the rebuilding process.

“It hit me (to make the trade) when we got the offer that we got,” he said. “I don’t think there’s ever a point we said now is the time that we have to do a deal. It was just that we got a really good offer.

“If there were no good offers, which there hadn’t been over the last couple of years, it would have been very easy to (bring them back) and try to fill in the roster. They were under contract — KG for two more years and Paul for another year — and we would have kept everybody together.”



I kinda feel that Danny has given some mixed signals on his thought on this. He was either torn to no end about this, or he was looking for this. Like I said this helps the Celtics and Nets. The Celtics get to fast forward the rebuilding process with cap space(next summer), and picks, with the trade exception worth $10.3 million. So they can build this team around Rondo, and Stevens. Plus KG and Pierce get a chance to walk away champions together. I think Danny wanted to put them in a winning situation,and with the Nets wanting them both, it was a winning situation.

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12 Comments

Reply paul
7:19 AM on July 16, 2013 
I think the problem was Paul. Pierce offered no real solution to the leadership issue between him and Rondo. As for Doc, he was happy to just ride the veterans and to heck with the young ones, or so it seemed. Danny won't say this, but I think he saw it last year, that Paul may pay lip service to Rondo's leadership, but in the end, he wasn't entirely unhappy to see the young upstart fail so he could step in and be the hero again. Ir's a story that's been seen in the NBA again and again and again.
Reply Greg
1:33 PM on July 16, 2013 
Pretty right Paul. It looks like Kobe and Dwights problem.
Reply paul
1:38 PM on July 16, 2013 
Greg says...
Pretty right Paul. It looks like Kobe and Dwights problem.


It's such a shame, Greg, because when Rondo and Paul clicked, it made for some of the greatest basketball in the history of the planet
Reply rcraig617
1:40 PM on July 16, 2013 
I don't see how you can say paul didn't try to give the reigns to rondo. This year rondo had the ball more then any of the previous years. Paul let rondo lead the offseason workouts and i'm pretty sure you saw his face when he heard rondo had a torn acl. Paul doesn't have to just bow down to rondo to give him the leadership and it's not like any of that mattered because on the floor paul wasn't calling any of the plays he let rondo do that the whole year and we must admit rondo didn't play up to par. As for doc running vets into the ground I completely agree.
Reply Birdman33
1:57 PM on July 16, 2013 
I think the real issue guys was Doc. He did a bit of the play calling,and those were his plays. The game plan for Rondo was to give Pierec the ball,and to get the hell out of his way.I'm sure they had some words,like most teammates do. But the issue was Doc's tired as offense that brokedown even more without Ray.
Reply Birdman33
1:58 PM on July 16, 2013 
Rondo did have the ball in his hands more,but with nothing to work with. Doc hoped for a Rondo miracle,or a Pierce iso,and maybe a pick and roll with KG.
Reply paul
9:30 PM on July 16, 2013 
rcraig617 says...
I don't see how you can say paul didn't try to give the reigns to rondo. This year rondo had the ball more then any of the previous years. Paul let rondo lead the offseason workouts and i'm pretty sure you saw his face when he heard rondo had a torn acl. Paul doesn't have to just bow down to rondo to give him the leadership and it's not like any of that mattered because on the floor paul wasn't calling any of the plays he let rondo do that the whole year and we must admit rondo didn't play up to par. As for doc running vets into the ground I completely agree.


I think you are judging the situation based on superficialities, on Paul making the right noises at times, though I certainly agree with you that Rondo did not meet expectations last year. If you can't see it in the way Paul and Rondo never really got into a sustained groove with each other, in my opinion, look at the way Doc would seem to waffle about who was really the key guy on the team. And then there's the weird way that Paul seemed almost to sabotage those last few games before Rondo went down, and then the way he suddenly turned into his old superhero self after Rondo went down. I can't prove that Pierce never really accepted Rondo's leadership, though I think this has been fairly obvious. I'll tell you this though; in the future, I think we'll hear a lot more about what really went down with this team, and I'm pretty sure that we will hear that a lot of it had to do with a lurching rivalry between Rondo and Pierce.
Reply paul
9:34 PM on July 16, 2013 
Birdman33 says...
Rondo did have the ball in his hands more,but with nothing to work with. Doc hoped for a Rondo miracle,or a Pierce iso,and maybe a pick and roll with KG.


I thought that the way KG and Rondo seemed to develop a two-man game towards the end of the 2011-2012 season, and rode it almost to the championship round, was very telling. I think it showed that KG really accepted Rondo's rise. And I think it showed that this team, under Doc, never really developed an offensive plan, apart from Ray. The stuff KG and Rondo would do looked to me like stuff they worked out together, like they made it up, and it worked, so Doc went along with it. But even so, in that decisive game six, in the second half, Doc went back to his 'give it to Pierce' mode, it seemed.
Reply paul
9:37 PM on July 16, 2013 
The bottom line, so to speak, is this: if an older player, whose abilities are diminishing, but whose salary is a team-crushing 16 million, wants to stay around, he needs to figure out a way to maximize his rapport with the young gun. He just has to. And I don't think Pierce ever did, or that he even understood what that could mean. KG got it. Pierce did not. In my view. KG got it that you have to transition from the young one supporting your game to you supporting the young one's game.
Reply rcraig617
11:41 PM on July 16, 2013 
paul says...
I thought that the way KG and Rondo seemed to develop a two-man game towards the end of the 2011-2012 season, and rode it almost to the championship round, was very telling. I think it showed that KG really accepted Rondo's rise. And I think it showed that this team, under Doc, never really developed an offensive plan, apart from Ray. The stuff KG and Rondo would do looked to me like stuff they worked out together, like they made it up, and it worked, so Doc went along with it. But even so, in that decisive game six, in the second half, Doc went back to his 'give it to Pierce' mode, it seemed.

You have to look at it though. That game six and game seven lebron was on rondo almost exclusively and on pick and rolls or pick and fades rondo would get trapped so that two man game was eliminated and rondo was kind of canceled out. I agree with you that paul pierce tried to play hero ball but he did that because the whole series lebron was on him and he figured once lebron wasn't covering him he had a mistmatch. I don't agree with some of the shots he took but there's only so much rondo can do with lebron on him.
Reply rcraig617
11:44 PM on July 16, 2013 
If you look at our other series the past couple of years going back to when we eliminated cleveland when pierce had lebron on him that whole series rondo shined also in the 2010 finals when pierce had artest on him rondo shined even last yr vs the 76ers when pierce has iguodala on him he gave the reigns to rondo. The fact is rondo can't dominate every series the matchups and the way teams play you dictate that even since lebron has joined miami there's been a couple of series where wade played better then him and he didn't try to force it. That can be said for alot of people even this year ginobili played terrible in the finals but he felt like he had to shot because with lebron on parker there's only so much parker can do.
Reply paul
1:13 AM on July 17, 2013 
That's not how I remember it, though you may be right. What I remember was the Celts forcing the offense through Paul. Also, I don't think it's true that pgs can't beat Lebron. In fact, I would have sent Rondo straight at Lebron and try to foul Lebron out. Your best vs. their best. That's what it comes down to in the end. The Heat do trap Rondo a lot, and the Cs have never taken advantage of that successfully. If we were going to play the mismatch game, though, I would think that KG battering Bosh down low would have been the way to go.

Rondo was hot in that game. Shoulda stuck with him, not gone back to Doc's fave.