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Pierce speaks out about Ray

Posted by shawn cassidy on August 4, 2012 at 12:00 AM



What do you think of Paul's comments about Ray? My first reaction was that he's holding back. Come on Pierce, tell us how you really feel.


ESPN BOSTON

Boston Celtics captain Paul Pierce admitted he's a "little bitter" about Ray Allen's decision to go to Miami and said it will be "weird" going up against him on opening night next season, but Pierce expressed gratitude for what Allen brought to Boston, including helping the Celtics win a title.


"Ray made the best decision for him," Pierce told the team's official website Thursday in his first public offseason comments during a video interview. "That’s what it’s all about: You get in these situations, you become a free agent, and you make a decision based on what’s best for you and your family. Ray will always be a brother for me. If it wasn’t for him, I probably wouldn’t be wearing a championship ring. So the things he was able to do for this organization, will never be forgotten."


 Pierce giving that lame answer that all NBA players give. He did it for his family. Are you sure? Why's it best for his family? Moving them from Boston to Miami? I won't get on you Paul for saying that. But kudos to Pierce for calling him his brother. He's right, he will never be forgotten. For helping us win banner 17, and for turning on the Celtics.



Pierce said that, despite the departure of Allen, he is a fan of what Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge and his staff have been able to do this offseason, reassembling much of the core, highlighted by a three-year contract extension for Kevin Garnett.

"I love what Danny’s been able to do," said Pierce. "It was a tough decision this summer; A lot was riding on what direction we were going to head in. It was just a domino effect, once we signed Kevin, we knew were going to try to make another run at it. That’s pretty much the way I looked at it. Once we signed him, a number of guys were able to jump on board.

"I thought Danny did a good job of trying to replace Ray Allen. As you know Ray Allen went off to Miami, on his choice, but he was a great teammate, it was fun playing with him. But I think the guys coming in here -- Jason Terry, Courtney Lee, trying to get a healthy Jeff Green, even some of our rookies -- I think we’ve added a lot more depth, and it’s going to take a lot of pressure off me this upcoming season."


The pressure should be off of Pierce. Danny has built a team to win now, but it will take Pierce, and KG to execute the master plan of Danny's. I'm glad Pierce sees it the way I do. Danny has players to help take the load off of Pierce, but lets hope Pierce continues to see it that way. Overall, Pierce didn't say what we wanted to hear about Ray. But you know deep inside, Pierce is very upset, or he's thinking who cares. Danny built a better team without you on it. I say yes, Danny has built a better team.



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16 Comments

Reply C'slife
12:41 AM on August 4, 2012 
Pierce didn't down the road we wanted him to. Open up Paul, take a shot of tequila, and tell us everything.
Reply paul
12:42 AM on August 4, 2012 
I find this statement from Pierce to be rather disturbing. I agree with you, Shawn, that Pierce's 'he did what was best for his family' comment is crap. You know, unless they are crazy about beaches and marlin fishing to an extreme degree.

But what I find more interesting is the total lack of mention of the one key guy - Rondo. So what I think we can gather from this is that Pierce will unfortunately continue to feud and powerstruggle with Rondo for leadership. I had hoped that would change with Ray gone, even though I had thought both Ray and Pierce were involved. It's now clear that the offense will continue to struggle as Pierce and Rondo do their tug-of-war thing.

I think it may be time to trade Pierce. I think Doc has made it perfectly clear that if you aren't with the Rondo thing, you might need to consider other locations. I think it's time for Pierce to consider that.
Reply C'slife
1:03 AM on August 4, 2012 
paul says...
I find this statement from Pierce to be rather disturbing. I agree with you, Shawn, that Pierce's 'he did what was best for his family' comment is crap. You know, unless they are crazy about beaches and marlin fishing to an extreme degree.

But what I find more interesting is the total lack of mention of the one key guy - Rondo. So what I think we can gather from this is that Pierce will unfortunately continue to feud and powerstruggle with Rondo for leadership. I had hoped that would change with Ray gone, even though I had thought both Ray and Pierce were involved. It's now clear that the offense will continue to struggle as Pierce and Rondo do their tug-of-war thing.

I think it may be time to trade Pierce. I think Doc has made it perfectly clear that if you aren't with the Rondo thing, you might need to consider other locations. I think it's time for Pierce to consider that.



I wouldn't jump to that yet Paul. He didn't mention Rondo yes, but we still have so much time to see how this team pans out. I don't think will see the tug of war this season. I really believe it.
Reply Joan
1:04 AM on August 4, 2012 
paul says...
I find this statement from Pierce to be rather disturbing. I agree with you, Shawn, that Pierce's 'he did what was best for his family' comment is crap. You know, unless they are crazy about beaches and marlin fishing to an extreme degree.

But what I find more interesting is the total lack of mention of the one key guy - Rondo. So what I think we can gather from this is that Pierce will unfortunately continue to feud and powerstruggle with Rondo for leadership. I had hoped that would change with Ray gone, even though I had thought both Ray and Pierce were involved. It's now clear that the offense will continue to struggle as Pierce and Rondo do their tug-of-war thing.

I think it may be time to trade Pierce. I think Doc has made it perfectly clear that if you aren't with the Rondo thing, you might need to consider other locations. I think it's time for Pierce to consider that.



Paul, don't say that please!! We got time, and will see what happens. I know the guys will gel more this season, keep the faith.
Reply GeeZeeCeltics
5:29 AM on August 4, 2012 
Wow, I agree to the replies to Paul. That was jumping to a conclusion. There was no real reason to bring up Rondo.
Reply paul
7:24 AM on August 4, 2012 
I hear what you all are sayng, and I appreciate the urging to keep the faith, and believe me, no one wants to see the chemistry between Pierce and Rondo more than me: some of the best plays I've ever seen have been between Pierce and Rondo, or Rondo to Pierce. But I think the omission of Rondo is as glaring in what Pierce says here as it was when Allen talked about his decision at his press conference and never mentioned Rondo. And it's not like there isn't a long history of tension between Rondo and Pierce, in my opinion, similar to the tension between Rondo and Allen.

I've been waiting to see what Pierce would say, since it's been pretty obvious that he would have to say something. Unfortunately, what he didn't say rings the loudest, imo.n And at this point, I'm really tired of it. I get it that athletes have egos, and making room for the young ones is never that easy, But this is becoming seriously ridiculous and perverse. It was appropriate for Pierce, as part of his statement, to acknowledge Rondo's key role going forward. I think it was glaring, in context of that, that he didn't do it.
Reply paul
7:32 AM on August 4, 2012 
As several folks have recently pointed out, Doc has now made it a point, repeatedly, that this team is Rondo's team. He's called Rondo a genius. He's pretty much said that it was up to Ray to adjust to Rondo's increasing role. He presumably arranged for Rondo to go to summer league and guest coach, clearly establishing Rondo's authority with the kids. Doc has delineated it as clearly as he could that it is a fact of Celtics life going forward that Rondo is at the helm. He even suggested that Rondo's Rise was part of the reason KG wanted to come back.

I just don't see how, given all that, Pierce could have made this statement, where he touches on nearly every issue, EXCEPT Rondo, without it being a glaring omission because of the context Doc has created, if for no other reason. It doesn't bode well.
Reply celts
10:42 AM on August 4, 2012 
paul says...
As several folks have recently pointed out, Doc has now made it a point, repeatedly, that this team is Rondo's team. He's called Rondo a genius. He's pretty much said that it was up to Ray to adjust to Rondo's increasing role. He presumably arranged for Rondo to go to summer league and guest coach, clearly establishing Rondo's authority with the kids. Doc has delineated it as clearly as he could that it is a fact of Celtics life going forward that Rondo is at the helm. He even suggested that Rondo's Rise was part of the reason KG wanted to come back.

I just don't see how, given all that, Pierce could have made this statement, where he touches on nearly every issue, EXCEPT Rondo, without it being a glaring omission because of the context Doc has created, if for no other reason. It doesn't bode well.

pierce did talk about rondo to the globe not in this interview because they didn't ask him about the ray and rondo relationship the globe did...http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celt
ics_blog/2012/08/pierce_finally.html
Reply paul
6:15 PM on August 4, 2012 
Thanks Celtcs. Those are better comments about Rondo, very good insights into the significance of the Rondo-Allen beef.
Reply Morena
9:03 AM on August 5, 2012 
Thanks Celts!! I'm happy to read the last comment because I was starting to worry too about Pierce!! It will be hard for him but I think and hope he wil try to fully accept rondo's leadership.
Reply paul
12:21 PM on August 5, 2012 
Morena says...
Thanks Celts!! I'm happy to read the last comment because I was starting to worry too about Pierce!! It will be hard for him but I think and hope he wil try to fully accept rondo's leadership.


I'm still worried about Pierce. I stand by my original comments, and Pierce's talk about retiring leans in the same direction, I think. Pierce's ego is clearly NOT going to adapt to change very gently. He's already talking about how much he looks forward to free agency. He doesn't mention Rondo except in terms of Rondo's problems with Allen, not in terms of Rondo's leadership.

I say that Pierce will continue the Pierce/Allen tug of war with Rondo.
Reply Morena
9:31 PM on August 5, 2012 
paul says...
I'm still worried about Pierce. I stand by my original comments, and Pierce's talk about retiring leans in the same direction, I think. Pierce's ego is clearly NOT going to adapt to change very gently. He's already talking about how much he looks forward to free agency. He doesn't mention Rondo except in terms of Rondo's problems with Allen, not in terms of Rondo's leadership.

I say that Pierce will continue the Pierce/Allen tug of war with Rondo.

That would really hurt our team!! That's what I think too, but I hope he can understand the situation. Maybe with Garnett help. He looks forward to free agency?? well.. he can go if he doesn't want to be a Celtic anymore..
Reply Morena
9:46 PM on August 5, 2012 
I read the interview again.. you're right Paul, that's not very comforting..
Reply paul
10:45 PM on August 5, 2012 
CsLife pointed out an interview in the globe where Pierce says more about Rondo, Morena, but I don't find it comforting. Sure, he's defending his teammate, and that's good, but the deeper question has to do with leadership, and there I think it's clear that Rondo will continue to deal with Pierce's out of control ego, in my opinion. I know I repeat myself, but I continue to think that we saw Pierce at his best and his worst in Miami games five and six. In game five, he took the reins when Rondo was struggling, and then handed them back when Rondo got back on track. In game six, he took the reins away from Rondo in the second half because he was upset about Lebron outplaying him so badly, even though Rondo had been playing brilliantly.

HIs ego lost us the series, imo. And I don't see any change. Rondo is going to have to seize control of the team in a big way. He's going to have to fight Pierce for it. And it has to start on defense. If Rondo ramps up his mantoman d the way we know he can, that I think is the best way for him to seize control of the team as a leader. Show it on the floor and people will respect it. No more opposing point guards slashing to the basket all too easily.

And frankly, Rondo is going to have to have more forty point games. Pierce won't get it until Rondo has outplayed him so obviously that even the most determined denialism can't deny it.
Reply Morena
10:58 PM on August 5, 2012 
paul says...
CsLife pointed out an interview in the globe where Pierce says more about Rondo, Morena, but I don't find it comforting. Sure, he's defending his teammate, and that's good, but the deeper question has to do with leadership, and there I think it's clear that Rondo will continue to deal with Pierce's out of control ego, in my opinion. I know I repeat myself, but I continue to think that we saw Pierce at his best and his worst in Miami games five and six. In game five, he took the reins when Rondo was struggling, and then handed them back when Rondo got back on track. In game six, he took the reins away from Rondo in the second half because he was upset about Lebron outplaying him so badly, even though Rondo had been playing brilliantly.

HIs ego lost us the series, imo. And I don't see any change. Rondo is going to have to seize control of the team in a big way. He's going to have to fight Pierce for it. And it has to start on defense. If Rondo ramps up his mantoman d the way we know he can, that I think is the best way for him to seize control of the team as a leader. Show it on the floor and people will respect it. No more opposing point guards slashing to the basket all too easily.

And frankly, Rondo is going to have to have more forty point games. Pierce won't get it until Rondo has outplayed him so obviously that even the most determined denialism can't deny it.

You're right, and I think Doc making it clear that this is Rondo's team as he did, will help!!
Reply paul
11:19 PM on August 5, 2012 
Morena says...
You're right, and I think Doc making it clear that this is Rondo's team as he did, will help!!


But in the end, Morena, I think Rondo is going to have to really grab it. He's going to have to