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Celtics sign Jason Collins

Posted by shawn cassidy on July 22, 2012 at 2:45 AM




I feel pretty blah about this signing. Not really what I expected, but what else is out there? Collins averaged 3.8 points and 3.9 rebounds per game. In 30 regular-season games with the Hawks last season. He'll see playing time only if Sullinger can't contribute this season, and if the Celtics have injuries to Wilcox, or Bass.

The Celtics needed another big, and I guess this is the guy. I'd take Collings over Darko. or Kwame Brown any day.

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8 Comments

Reply paul
4:49 AM on July 22, 2012 
I see this as a smart move. We needed one more big. But please, Danny, we need Dooling (and Pietrus would be great).
Reply dennee
10:29 AM on July 22, 2012 
I have to agree with you Shawn. Pretty blah, but there really was not much out there particularly in the vet minimum price range. If you take the time to compare the stats of all of the available centers, they are literally identical. Throwing darts or tossing a coin and you get the same thing.
I do disagree about Sully having an effect on Collins' playing time. At 6'9" with no vertical leap and limited quickness, Sully is not going to be a center.
Reply paul
11:42 AM on July 22, 2012 
Well, except that Sullinger has already been talked about as a part time center by the team, I believe.
Reply dennee
2:35 PM on July 22, 2012 
paul says...
Well, except that Sullinger has already been talked about as a part time center by the team, I believe.

I had seen that too, but it was in connection to when they would play a small line up, which is not all that often. I think I may have said this before, but Moses Malone is the only guy at 6'9" to play center and make an impact. He didn't have much athleticism either, but it was in the era when you could still man-handle your opponents. Malone was a bull who could give Parrish, Jabbar, and others fits. With today's rules and the third ref, he could never get away with his style of play and I think the same will hold true for Sully. It will be a short-lived experiment.
Reply paul
5:21 PM on July 22, 2012 
dennee says...
I had seen that too, but it was in connection to when they would play a small line up, which is not all that often. I think I may have said this before, but Moses Malone is the only guy at 6'9" to play center and make an impact. He didn't have much athleticism either, but it was in the era when you could still man-handle your opponents. Malone was a bull who could give Parrish, Jabbar, and others fits. With today's rules and the third ref, he could never get away with his style of play and I think the same will hold true for Sully. It will be a short-lived experiment.


Whoah there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave Cowens?
Reply dennee
11:45 PM on July 22, 2012 
paul says...
Whoah there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave Cowens?

You are right! I forgot about Cowens which is odd because I actually got to meet him once. I am 6'4" and remember that he didn't tower over me like Bob Lanier.
Reply paul
11:56 PM on July 22, 2012 
dennee says...
You are right! I forgot about Cowens which is odd because I actually got to meet him once. I am 6'4" and remember that he didn't tower over me like Bob Lanier.


I've read that he was actually 6'8", not even 6'9". Wes Unseld was even shorter. It's just weird to me how the guys of the seventies are completely forgotten today. I think, though, that there is plenty of banging allowed in today's game, and that guys like Malone, Cowens and Unseld would do fine today. What I like about Sullinger is that he seems determined to make it work in the paint, with back to basket. If he's determined enough, he'll figure out how to make it work. When Cowens first came into the league, it was expected that he would be a PF, and in fact, he did incorporate a lot of that into his game, I think. He was well noted for distributing the ball from the extended elbow at times, and also for shooting from the what at that time was long distance for a center, but Cowens had the mentality of a center. Hopefully Sullinger has some of that...
Reply dennee
12:17 PM on July 23, 2012 
paul says...
I've read that he was actually 6'8", not even 6'9". Wes Unseld was even shorter. It's just weird to me how the guys of the seventies are completely forgotten today. I think, though, that there is plenty of banging allowed in today's game, and that guys like Malone, Cowens and Unseld would do fine today. What I like about Sullinger is that he seems determined to make it work in the paint, with back to basket. If he's determined enough, he'll figure out how to make it work. When Cowens first came into the league, it was expected that he would be a PF, and in fact, he did incorporate a lot of that into his game, I think. He was well noted for distributing the ball from the extended elbow at times, and also for shooting from the what at that time was long distance for a center, but Cowens had the mentality of a center. Hopefully Sullinger has some of that...

It is not so much forgetting as they were not burned into our memory to start with. These guys played before cable was available everywhere and before national TV coverage. If, like me, you lived outside of a team's local area, coverage back then was maybe a ten line summary in the local newspaper with an occasional single, grainy, still photograph. Had it not been for Henry Finkel (Cowen's backup) being a local product from the University of Dayton, we probably would not have even had the newspaper coverage. It skews ones memory. Since Malone's career carried over into the 80s and I got to see him on TV is probably why I remember him more than the others.
Plus, in the earlier eras, there were players that were 6'11" and 7'0" but not every team had one. By the 80s, every team HAD to have one and many teams had two or more.