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Wyc on the Celtics: "We don't feel like we have a championship team at the moment"

Posted by shawn cassidy on May 24, 2013 at 1:10 AM

I agree with Wyc and Danny about this team not being a championship team at the moment. Because the C's are not a contending team without Rondo. In my view you can't put much stock into the Celtics first round outing. They were without Rondo, so why should we be shocked that the Celtics lost to the Knicks? If you add Rondo the Celtics probably  beat the Knicks. Do the Celtics beat the Pacers or Bulls of the East? Maybe they do, but they don't beat Miami. The Celtics are not that far away like were led to believe.I think Wyc and Danny are lowering our expectations.

The East is wide open outside of Miami's dominance. If the Celtics can grow next season with Rondo and with the guys that were supposed to be great with Rondo. Then this team can shake things up. Some many roads the Celtics can take, and that's where the questions creep in about this team contenting. The age of Pierce and KG hinder this team in the public's eyes. But what those two need is Rondo and Green taking this team over with a flawless takeover. So many things can go right for this team, and so many things can go wrong. All parties are to be held accountable if this team falls next season.

The only way the Celtics contend in my eyes is if they go big,and the likely chance of that happening is zero. The chance of getting a quality big also seems very unlikely. It seems like they'll have to part with Pierce to make that happen. Unless they find some takers when it comes to other players that the Celtics could move. To sum up my mini rant, or venting time. The Celtics won't be a lottery team, and they won't be a 7th seed. They're likely a team that will make it out of the first round, but the likely chance of making it further than that is iffy. How can the Celtics get big is where I rest.

"We don’t feel like we have a championship team [at the moment]; It’s pretty obvious, we lost in the first round," said Grousbeck. "We have to see who is with us, we have to see what offers there are for people, we’ve got to decide what to do. It might be a multi-year plan. We’ve never intentionally lost games and we don’t intend to trash things now. We've got players -- [Rajon] Rondo, [Avery] Bradley, [Jeff] Green, [Jared] Sullinger, Brandon Bass, the younger guys are not going to let us win the lottery anyway. That’s a good roster. We hope that Paul [Pierce] and [Kevin Garnett] are back with them and we hope we can reload along the way.

"I don’t know what will happen, I’ll know more about the plan in early July. At the moment, we just have to see what the options are."

I'm glad that their not happy with this team, because I'm not. But I also know this team doesn't have a bunch of scrubs on the roster. I know I may over sell Rondo, but why shouldn't I? He's led this team to a NBA finals in 2010, and close in 2012. Plus he's a NBA champion. He knows how to get it done. The 54 million dollar question is how can this team reload, and how can they do it on low funds because of the cap, and the luxury tax. Plus the elephant in the room Paul Pierce's final year. Is it worth 15 million bucks. Like I said so many roads to take, but one will lead the Celtics down the road of greatness, or mediocre basketball. This team no matter what won't be considered contenders, and hopefully if the Celtics reload as they seem to try to do that ever season. We will have to sit back until the Celtics prove themselves in the regular season. Then maybe we can see if their for real or not.

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Reply paul
7:05 AM on May 24, 2013 
I don't know what to think about Rondo anymore. On one hand, I think all the guys over at Celtics Blog who are trying to trade him for a big are crazy. Sure bigs are better than smalls, in a way, but in the final analysis, all Super Stats aside, a great player trumps all. Rondo has greatness. I don't know who can't see that. Bob Ryan! But what comes with that greatness is so problematic. The bad shooting that never seems to get fixed. The moodiness that can torpedo an entire season (see Clippers game). The thin skin that allows media needling to get in, but doesn't allow constructive criticism to get in. The ball-dominant approach that refuses to take full responsibility. The increasingly woeful defensive play from a guy who should be, it would appear, one of the best defensive players in the league. The way Rondo seems to drift in and out of focus. Is Rondo a once in a generation player that one can build championships around? Or is he an endless tease, that you can eak years of PR around?

In the end, I would say this: commonsense tells you that Rondo basically extended the three year Big Three window to six, and maybe more, if Pierce and KG come back. He led us, or helped lead us, to the finals twice, and the semis once, and deeper than expected once, and the only two times he let us down, he was injured. That's right. We went deeper than expected when we had him, and we went out early when we didn't. That bodes well that we have a true leader in Rondo.

Recently, Phil Jackson said that if he could pick his team out of all the players of all time, he'd pick Russell first. There are just so many things that go beyond what the statistics tell you. That's something for the Trade Rondo crowd to chew on as they watch Chris Paul wash out of the playoffs early once again, despite heading a megastar/neo-showtime team.
Reply rcraig617
12:04 PM on May 24, 2013 
I don't think we should trade rondo. I feel we need a center who can protect the paint and is good in pick and roll coverage that can give us 25-30 mins. But he can't be a complete liability on offense. We're fine at the guard position and we have green and pierce at the forward i'm sure we'll sign another veteran someone like pietrus as a 3rd forward and we don't really need a 4 because we're stacked at that position.
Reply Morena
3:29 PM on May 24, 2013 
I agree with you when you say that we don't have a championship team but we're not very far away.
I still believe in Rondo.
Reply paul
10:42 PM on May 24, 2013 
Yes, let's find a decent center somehow!!!
Reply rcraig617
12:03 AM on May 25, 2013 
paul says...
Yes, let's find a decent center somehow!!!

If we get a solid center and add some bench players that can actually contribute we'll be right there all I know is we don't need a pg nor do we need a pf. What do you guys think we need to make us a championship team?
Reply paul
6:33 AM on May 25, 2013 
A center. And let's get JSmoove if we can. I've been dreaming of Big All and Smith both, but I know it's crazy.