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Celtics Morning Joe: Staying loyal is the way to go

Posted by shawn cassidy on May 12, 2013 at 5:30 AM



Loyalty is the foundation of friendship. When it comes to Pierce and Ainge. I'm not sure if they're friends, but that doesn't mean Ainge needs to turn the other way on Pierce.  Loyalty can be firmer than an iron vise. It's an inevitable agony that will have to deal with at some point when Pierce is gone. Is it now, or is it after Paul's final season under contract. Were looking at the final days regardless. It could be now, or it could be next season.


Loyalty in pure form  is beautiful & true. Has the Celtics franchise shown loyalty to every single player that has put on a Celtics uniform? No they haven't,but when it comes to their all-time great players they have shown in most cases that they are. Times continue to change,and when it comes down to it loyalty may not exist in the same form that we would hope. Last season Ray Allen didn't show any loyalty to Boston.


But in his defense he was on the chopping block for two plus seasons when it came to trades. Danny tried to write a wrong when he added a no trade clause to the potential contract that was being offered to Ray.  Allen decided to leave,and he didn't show loyalty to his teammates. He didn't have to show loyalty to Ainge. I believe he had to be loyal to Doc and his teammates. That story is old news. Tired of it, just using it as an example.


When it comes to Paul Pierce. The money on his final year is hard to swallow. I've been saying that with some others for the past couple of weeks. His play didn't back it up all of the time. With the state of the franchise. For me bringing Pierce back is a must.


When placed between two loyalties, as it feels like that for fans. A choice needs to be made. Reason and logic disappear,and simplicity starts to fade when detaling and cataloging it all. Once the decision has been made. A line will be crossed. Who will cross the line. Will Ainge concede early on with this matter? The thing that is alarming to me are the rumors. Last season Ray Allen was rumored to be leaving  Boston for Miami during the damn playoffs.  He already had an idea of what was ahead. This season during the stages of the season. Rumors similar to Ray's last season broke about Pierce. People thought this was it for Pierce in a Celtics uniform.


Some  rumors are true, and that was the case last season with Ray. This article was during last season's NBA Finals. The rumor started in March during the 2012 season.



Ray Allen on Heat next season? That would feel odd

Allen’s free-agent options are up in the air. The Miami Heat are expected to make a strong run at signing him this summer, one league source said.

“First of all, (Boston) has to be willing to have me back,” Allen said. “Then you have to look around to see what’s acceptable and who is capable of having me on the team and then you go from there. It’s hard to really say.”


So that rumor was out last season way before the free agent period kicked off. So with rumors out right now with Paul's departure likely. It's hard not to believe what they say.

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12 Comments

Reply paul
8:21 AM on May 12, 2013 
I think Paul should stay, but will he make changes in his game? How long can we wait to bring in people Rondo can really play with? He is entering his prime. We can't wait on Pierce to 'get it'.
Reply rcraig617
10:39 AM on May 12, 2013 
I think if it's up to paul he'll stay. It will be if danny wants to pay him that 15 mil next year. we probably should because the only thing close to paul that we could've got in a trade was rudy gay and we didn't trade him. If we release him we're still close to the cap so we won't be able to go after cp3 or dwight so it makes no sense to release paul in my eyes.
Reply paul
1:19 PM on May 12, 2013 
Really? So you just brush aside any possible trade, regardless? I want to keep Pierce, for loyalty's sake, and because he's still a good player, but something has to give. We simply cannot continue with the leadership tug of war between him and Rondo. Also, I don't know that I believe the cap stuff we are hearing. There are plenty of self-proclaimed experts. In fact, last year they told us that we were right at the cap , even though KG signed for a lot less. Ok, I guess Green's contract soaked up the extra dollars. This year they are telling us that subtracting 15 million would make no difference to our cap. I know the system is very complicated, and it changes each year, and no matter what, the Lakers get to sign whomever they want for however much money they want, or so it seems. We'll see what wrinkles Pierce and Ainge may be able to work out. Or not. But I don't want Pierce back if it means more of the contested leadership. Too many guys on this team appeared to think, last season, that they really really didn't HAVE to figure out a way to maximize their play with Rondo. If so, I don' t know where that idea came from, but I have a sneaking suspicion.
Reply paul
1:22 PM on May 12, 2013 
It sounds like some of the younger players may have finally realized, because of the Knicks humbling, that they really do need Rondo.
Reply Greg
1:27 PM on May 12, 2013 
Paul, I think its Docs area to cut Pierces balls off if he goes rogue. Pierce needs to become a spot up shooter,or a guy who works off of curls at the elbow. Isolation for Pierce is dead. Because teams double him and he makes a bad pass. Paul needs to stay away from iso ball,like Melo.
Reply paul
1:35 PM on May 12, 2013 
Greg, I think he can be a passer too - we could have two passers - but the two guys would have to actively work at figuring out how to play off each other. And it's not just up to Pierce. Rondo has to be more willing to take hot passes from Pierce.
Reply Greg
1:40 PM on May 12, 2013 
Paul, I agree that Pierce can pass,but will he want too,as your saying.. I think his scoring role should be lmited to no isolation plays,unless he's got passing the ball in mind.
Reply rcraig617
11:48 AM on May 13, 2013 
paul says...
It sounds like some of the younger players may have finally realized, because of the Knicks humbling, that they really do need Rondo.

DEFINETLY. But we still need that heart that kg and paul showed in that series. Those 2 along with terry were the catalysts of our little 2 game run.
Reply rcraig617
11:51 AM on May 13, 2013 
paul says...
Greg, I think he can be a passer too - we could have two passers - but the two guys would have to actively work at figuring out how to play off each other. And it's not just up to Pierce. Rondo has to be more willing to take hot passes from Pierce.

Rondo has to make and take the shots. Remember Pierce played with rondo since he was a rookie and Rondo hasn't been a willing shooter and even in his earlier years he wasn't a good shooter so when they play together I think pierce doesn't have that trust in Rondo. If you go back to rondo's earlier years he used to do what bradley did off the ball now he just spots up and when he catches the ball he resets the offense too often instead of just spotting up and shooting.
Reply paul
4:58 PM on May 13, 2013 
Greg says...
Paul, I agree that Pierce can pass,but will he want too,as your saying.. I think his scoring role should be lmited to no isolation plays,unless he's got passing the ball in mind.


I don't mind occasional iso, but I'd like to see him mostly in the flow. But he doesn't like to play that way. I'd like to see him play more like Havlicek, but does he have the stamina? In the flow, Paul. In the flow.
Reply paul
4:59 PM on May 13, 2013 
rcraig617 says...
DEFINETLY. But we still need that heart that kg and paul showed in that series. Those 2 along with terry were the catalysts of our little 2 game run.


They do have heart, I agree. But I think Paul is a lot of the reason we come out flat so much. He's locked into this idea of turning it on at the last minute.
Reply paul
5:01 PM on May 13, 2013 
rcraig617 says...
Rondo has to make and take the shots. Remember Pierce played with rondo since he was a rookie and Rondo hasn't been a willing shooter and even in his earlier years he wasn't a good shooter so when they play together I think pierce doesn't have that trust in Rondo. If you go back to rondo's earlier years he used to do what bradley did off the ball now he just spots up and when he catches the ball he resets the offense too often instead of just spotting up and shooting.


I agree. Rondo needs to take responsibility for becoming a reliable shooter. But he also can take the ball on the attack off a pass from Pierce. No one shoots beetter on the run than Rondo.