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Question of the day: Dooling or Pietrus?

Posted by shawn cassidy on July 12, 2012 at 10:10 AM






It may come down to one of them, or maybe Danny ends up signing both, but both players brought something to the table last season. Dooling was the ultimate lockerroom guy. He was a motivator, and he could be the best thing for your team. He had his moments of not producing, but Danny trusted Dooling, and he didn't lose faith. Dooling became a better fit as the season moved along, and he was a vital factor when Bradley ended his season in the playoffs. Having Dooling back wouldn't be a bad thing at all,


Pietrus is a defensive player, and I think for that fact alone puts him ahead of re-signing Dooling. Pietrus is also a good lockerroom guy. The only complaint I may have about Pietrus would be his decision making skills. He concerns me because he can jack up three's like his life depends on it. But than again, Pietrus was never the same after his fall in Philly, with some time to heal, and with a camp with the Celtics, could be what the doctor ordered. For me it's hard to pick, but I would have to go with MP as my choice.

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12 Comments

Reply Morena
10:38 AM on July 12, 2012 
I'd pick Dooling. He was so imprortant especially for Rondo last year.
And Rondo will need a stabilizing presence next season
Reply Shawn Cassidy
11:23 AM on July 12, 2012 
Morena says...
I'd pick Dooling. He was so imprortant especially for Rondo last year.
And Rondo will need a stabilizing presence next season


You make a great point, and its so hard to pick, but I still think the Celtics should finsih off the roster with WILCOX,DOOLING,PIETRUS.
Reply Morena
11:31 AM on July 12, 2012 
Shawn Cassidy says...
You make a great point, and its so hard to pick, but I still think the Celtics should finsih off the roster with WILCOX,DOOLING,PIETRUS.

Yes, if they could brigh back the three of them would be absolutely great!!
Reply paul
11:57 AM on July 12, 2012 
Shawn Cassidy says...
You make a great point, and its so hard to pick, but I still think the Celtics should finsih off the roster with WILCOX,DOOLING,PIETRUS.



I think we really really need all three of those guys. Wilcox is a key guy to have for our Gang of Bigs. Pietrus is emotional, and is a swing defensive player. But of the three, Dooling is the most important. Dooling helps Rondo deal with the pressures and challenges of his role. The value of that can't be measured in statistics. Some great athletes are fiercely independent, like Michael Jordan, or Larry Bird.
Others are very, very high strung. Think about Bill Russell, with KC Jones always by his side. Think about Dave Cowens, when Red foolishly failed to re-sign Paul Silas; next thing Little Red knew, Big Red was on a sabbatical.

I keep thinking about Seabiscuit, also from Kentucky, like Rondo. Seabiscuit was an extremely intelligent creature, intensely competitive, with an iron will. No one could handle him, mainly because they didn't really try to figure out how. They figured that each horse should be handled the exact same way. Many GMs and coaches make that mistake with human athletes too. They knew Seabiscuit was a talented horse, but the more they couldn't force him to race, the harder they tried, and the more rebellious he became. Finally Seabiscuit was lucky enough to encounter a trainer who saw him as a proud, intelligent, competitive and massively talented INDIVIDUAL. One of Tom Smith's first moves was to find an older horse named Pumpkin, who was very friendly and calm. Pumpkin moved into the 'locker' next to Seabiscuit, and the rest was racing history.

It's not weakness. Seabiscuit wasn't a weak horse. He may have been the greatest race horse ever. Bill Russell wasn't a weak basketball player. He may have been the greatest ever. Dave Cowens may have been the greatest 'energy player' the NBA has ever seen. He was far from weak.

But genius can be a high wire act. A calming friend can help. Dooling seemed to help Rondo. He and Rondo seem to trust each other. We need him.
Reply Cisco
12:01 PM on July 12, 2012 
Both Dooling and Pietrus were fine bench players. They both had their fine plays, at times.
I would be tempted to pick Dooling, for his highly motivation skills, in the lockerroom. Pietrus is a good lockerroom as well, but Dooling is more like a preacher guy, able to have good spechees and make you play harder.
Dooling also had several very good appreciation remarks about Rondo and I think Rondo and the whole team need this kind of trust and, just like Morena said, a stabilizing presence. Not to mention that, when realy mattered, in the playoffs, Dooling played great. Sure, Pietrus had that awful incident, but that alone would not affect Dooling's play, in my opinion.

If Pietrus would have a spot in the roster it would be great.
If Wilcox would join the team, that would be also great, great news!
Reply paul
12:07 PM on July 12, 2012 
Cisco says...
Both Dooling and Pietrus were fine bench players. They both had their fine plays, at times.
I would be tempted to pick Dooling, for his highly motivation skills, in the lockerroom. Pietrus is a good lockerroom as well, but Dooling is more like a preacher guy, able to have good spechees and make you play harder.
Dooling also had several very good appreciation remarks about Rondo and I think Rondo and the whole team need this kind of trust and, just like Morena said, a stabilizing presence. Not to mention that, when realy mattered, in the playoffs, Dooling played great. Sure, Pietrus had that awful incident, but that alone would not affect Dooling's play, in my opinion.

If Pietrus would have a spot in the roster it would be great.
If Wilcox would join the team, that would be also great, great news!


We have a new Big Three, but we also have a Little Three, and we need them too...
Reply Morena
12:11 PM on July 12, 2012 
paul says...
I think we really really need all three of those guys. Wilcox is a key guy to have for our Gang of Bigs. Pietrus is emotional, and is a swing defensive player. But of the three, Dooling is the most important. Dooling helps Rondo deal with the pressures and challenges of his role. The value of that can't be measured in statistics. Some great athletes are fiercely independent, like Michael Jordan, or Larry Bird.
Others are very, very high strung. Think about Bill Russell, with KC Jones always by his side. Think about Dave Cowens, when Red foolishly failed to re-sign Paul Silas; next thing Little Red knew, Big Red was on a sabbatical.

I keep thinking about Seabiscuit, also from Kentucky, like Rondo. Seabiscuit was an extremely intelligent creature, intensely competitive, with an iron will. No one could handle him, mainly because they didn't really try to figure out how. They figured that each horse should be handled the exact same way. Many GMs and coaches make that mistake with human athletes too. They knew Seabiscuit was a talented horse, but the more they couldn't force him to race, the harder they tried, and the more rebellious he became. Finally Seabiscuit was lucky enough to encounter a trainer who saw him as a proud, intelligent, competitive and massively talented INDIVIDUAL. One of Tom Smith's first moves was to find an older horse named Pumpkin, who was very friendly and calm. Pumpkin moved into the 'locker' next to Seabiscuit, and the rest was racing history.

It's not weakness. Seabiscuit wasn't a weak horse. He may have been the greatest race horse ever. Bill Russell wasn't a weak basketball player. He may have been the greatest ever. Dave Cowens may have been the greatest 'energy player' the NBA has ever seen. He was far from weak.

But genius can be a high wire act. A calming friend can help. Dooling seemed to help Rondo. He and Rondo seem to trust each other. We need him.

Wow!! Amazing comment!!
I loved reading it!! It's so interesting and I think you're so right!!

It's not easy being a genius I think.
It separates you from the other person because just few people are able to understand genius.
Dooling is one of them.
Reply paul
12:28 PM on July 12, 2012 
Morena says...
Wow!! Amazing comment!!
I loved reading it!! It's so interesting and I think you're so right!!

It's not easy being a genius I think.
It separates you from the other person because just few people are able to understand genius.
Dooling is one of them.


Thankyou Morena. We need our LITTLE THREE!!
Reply Celticslifer
3:09 PM on July 12, 2012 
I agree with everyone here, need all three. The second round needs to go. Knowing the system, someone will not come back.
Reply GeeZeeCeltics
3:26 PM on July 12, 2012 
It would be smart to fill out the rest of the roster with all three players because they are a part of the amazing chemistry we witnessed last season. We have to sustain that if we are to beat Miami. We can't beat them with skill, so we need to be so strong mentally that we can go through them, not over them. Dooling helps Rondo immeasurably, Wilcox is very useful when running and playing off Rondo and MP is the goofball who happens to be a good player on D and a three point threat. All three are keepers, imo.
Reply paul
4:29 PM on July 12, 2012 
I love your point, GeeZee. That team last year had a chemistry and personality, and the Little Three were an important part of that.
Reply jlil89
2:21 AM on July 13, 2012 
If I had to pick one, I would have to agree on going with Dooling. You can't put a price on someone who ensures your best player is emotional in check when needed.