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Treason's Reward?

Posted by paul on July 11, 2012 at 10:45 AM

The Dino Media continue to have themselves a festival of love for (sports) traitor Ray Allen.   CSNNE is carrying Allen's Heat press conference today.   !!  The Herald's Joe Fitzgerald declares that "Allen Leaves Boston As A Class Act."  !!   Fitzgerald's main point seems to be that the Celtics weren't loyal to Allen, so the team shouldn't expect Allen's to be loyal.  Doesn't it seem like Allen's defenders are late comers to this kind of Ainge criticism?  They are Born Again critics of Ainge?  Meanwhile, the Globe's Washburn opines that both sides are at fault in the Ray Allen debacle, but spends almost the entire article defending Allen.  Washburn even dishes out this whopper:

Allen slipped away quietly but with a piercing message to the Celtics.

Oh?  That was quiet?  Washburn also makes this startling claim about Allen's purported stoic silence:

In one of his final acts of professionalism as a Celtic, Ray Allen remained silent during all the chatter as the team struggled to a losing record at the All-Star break.

A similar comment is made by Fitzgerald in his Herald article:

And if, as self-described insiders now contend, he was unhappy because of personal issues with the team, he buttoned his lips, never seeking out a microphone to tell the world how “disrespected” he felt, to borrow a phrase from Fenway Park

So all those endless leaks, feasted on by Dino 'Journos', about how unhappy Allen was, and how awful Rondo was, those most definitely didn't emanate from Allen?  That's interesting, because I think there was a similar feel to some of the past Celtics scuttlebutt  and current Allen defense background info.  I get the feeling that he wasn't a silently suffering hero at all.  I think he was a typical politician, leaking the nasty stuff he wanted to see out in public, while pretending to keep his own hands clean.


And isn't it interesting that many of Allen's staunchest defenders seem to be virulent Rondo critics?   Remember learning about sets in high school math class?  These would be heavily overlapping sets, wouldn't they?  Rondo haters and Allen defenders?   See, I think that is what this is really all about.  I think this Ray Allen controversey  is really  just one more battle by the diehards who don't like the Rise of Rondo.  Rondo played so brilliantly at the end of last season and in the playoffs that it's hard to take him on directly.    We'll hear a lot more about this as the season goes on, if Ray happens to do well and Rondo happens to struggle, as he surely will at times.

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Reply Morena
11:25 AM on July 11, 2012 
It's like: GOOD GUY vs BAD GUY, who do you pick?
I can't stand this.
And I'm curious to hear what Mr Classy will say about Rondo in his press conference because I doubt nobody will ask him something about that
Reply paul
11:28 AM on July 11, 2012 
Morena says...
It's like: GOOD GUY vs BAD GUY, who do you pick?
I can't stand this.
And I'm curious to hear what Mr Classy will say about Rondo in his press conference because I doubt nobody will ask him something about that


No doubt butter won't melt in his mouth. Then we'll hear more scuttlebutt as the summer goes on. If Rondo picked his nose in the locker room, we'll hear about it...


About the good guy bad guy bit: I think that Allen's number will ultimately be retired. In the larger scheme of things, this is no big deal. It's a tempest in a teacup. But I find it so interesting that so many Dino Journos are trying to somehow cover the sheer ugliness of what Allen has done.
Reply Morena
11:37 AM on July 11, 2012 
paul says...
No doubt butter won't melt in his mouth. Then we'll hear more scuttlebutt as the summer goes on. If Rondo picked his nose in the locker room, we'll hear about it...

Yeah, then I'd be curious to hear Rondo's version.
But I really don't think he will talk about this. Who is Mr Classy?!

Moreover, on Boston.com this morning I read this:
"Those close to Rondo say the point guard was stunned to hear that his sometimes prickly relationship with Allen may have been one of the factors in Allen?s departure."
I don't know how much of this it's true, but still..
Reply paul
11:45 AM on July 11, 2012 
Morena says...
Yeah, then I'd be curious to hear Rondo's version.
But I really don't think he will talk about this. Who is Mr Classy?!

Moreover, on Boston.com this morning I read this:
"Those close to Rondo say the point guard was stunned to hear that his sometimes prickly relationship with Allen may have been one of the factors in Allen?s departure."
I don't know how much of this it's true, but still..



I don't think that's quite true about Rondo being so stunned, except that it's incredibly unprofessional of Allen, if you ask me, to allow personal friction with Rondo to make his decision, especially when headed to the land of Pat Smear, Le Ego, Le Thug and Chalmers (there's a sweet guy...).

I'm pretty sure Rondo will say nothing and speak with his game. I expect he'll show startling proficiency from the three point line next year, don't you?!

Interesting, though, that none of Allen's staunch defenders seem to have sought comment from Rondo...
Reply Morena
11:53 AM on July 11, 2012 
paul says...
I don't think that's quite true about Rondo being so stunned, except that it's incredibly unprofessional of Allen, if you ask me, to allow personal friction with Rondo to make his decision, especially when headed to the land of Pat Smear, Le Ego, Le Thug and Chalmers (there's a sweet guy...).

I'm pretty sure Rondo will say nothing and speak with his game. I expect he'll show startling proficiency from the three point line next year, don't you?!

Interesting, though, that none of Allen's staunch defenders seem to have sought comment from Rondo...

I wouldn't be surprised at all by an increased proficiency from the three point line!!
As you said, I believe too that the only thing that could have stunned Rondo about the situation is the lack of professionality showed by Allen in this situation.
Reply paul
12:03 PM on July 11, 2012 
Morena says...
I wouldn't be surprised at all by an increased proficiency from the three point line!!
As you said, I believe too that the only thing that could have stunned Rondo about the situation is the lack of professionality showed by Allen in this situation.


Deep down, Morena, I think these two guys really are like brothers, and like so many brothers, they have hurt each other and somehow simply cannot reach across the divide that has built up. And I think a lot of outsiders have been egging Allen on, egging on his resentments. I mean some of the writers, and of course, the MASTER MANIPULATOR himself, Pat Smear. He must have had himself a ball wrapping Allen around his finger.

I think some writers have begun to put their fingers on the problem; these two guys have different ways of approaching their work, and each looks to the other like a slacker.
Reply Morena
12:16 PM on July 11, 2012 
paul says...
Deep down, Morena, I think these two guys really are like brothers, and like so many brothers, they have hurt each other and somehow simply cannot reach across the divide that has built up. And I think a lot of outsiders have been egging Allen on, egging on his resentments. I mean some of the writers, and of course, the MASTER MANIPULATOR himself, Pat Smear. He must have had himself a ball wrapping Allen around his finger.

I think some writers have begun to put their fingers on the problem; these two guys have different ways of approaching their work, and each looks to the other like a slacker.

That, and as you said, Ray is probably in some sort of middle-age crisis.
I'm sure he will understand one day not so far away..
Reply paul
12:19 PM on July 11, 2012 
Morena says...
That, and as you said, Ray is probably in some sort of middle-age crisis.
I'm sure he will understand one day not so far away..


That's the important thing in the end, really. If feelings were hurt on both sides, hopefully one day they will be unhurt. But it surely would be nice if one day Ray apologizes to the Celtics and fans for a truly ugly move by him.
Reply paul
12:22 PM on July 11, 2012 
Lol - great comment from Reds Army twitter:

"I want Ray to get up, hit Pat Riley w/a chair, reveal a C's jersey, & J.R. to start screaming "OH MY GOD, THAT'S AINGE'S MUSIC!""

Oh yeah, that would be nice...
Reply Morena
12:24 PM on July 11, 2012 
paul says...
That's the important thing in the end, really. If feelings were hurt on both sides, hopefully one day they will be unhurt. But it surely would be nice if one day Ray apologizes to the Celtics and fans for a truly ugly move by him.

Yeah, THAT would be classy!!
Reply paul
12:26 PM on July 11, 2012 
Morena says...
Yeah, THAT would be classy!!


I was just thinking that it might not exactly be "nice", but it might be just!!
Reply paul
12:31 PM on July 11, 2012 
Wow. Just wow. Ray's comments are TOTALLY dissing Rondo, passively aggressively. Just wow. I thought he might try to make peace, at least a little, but it sounds like he is determined to make the pain hurt more.

Ray, you DO know that Rondo is going to crush you next year, right? I mean, you get that, right? Or are you so delusional?

It's cute too the way Ray slices and dices his verbiage. Let's see, he doesn't say that the friction with Rondo didn't play a role in his decision. He can't SAY that it did. Presumably because he thinks it wouldn't be politic. Sweet Jesus (Shuttlesworth), you really are headed for the demonic realm of politics, aren't you?

Oh Lord, he didn't! He DIDN'T. HE DID!!!!

He said it was a "family" decision!! Yup anytime anyone does something bad, it's 'for the family', and if they do something truly terrible, it's 'for the children'.

it seems like what he really wants in life is a point guard he can kick around...
Reply Cisco
1:41 PM on July 11, 2012 
This is so unbelievable!
Ray Allen just went out there and act non-professional. Not manly! Not classy!
He only ?texted? Paul and Kevin... Shame on you, Ray Allen!
Rondo just gave you (all of you) life! He gave you (all of you) more good basketball years! He simply does not deserve this crap, Ray Allen! He simply doesn't!
If it was for the game itself, you should have not bring this on the table.
Rondo? He will not say a thing... he will just play the game. That is class act.
Ray Allen? Not anymore!
Reply Morena
1:48 PM on July 11, 2012 
paul says...
Wow. Just wow. Ray's comments are TOTALLY dissing Rondo, passively aggressively. Just wow. I thought he might try to make peace, at least a little, but it sounds like he is determined to make the pain hurt more.

Ray, you DO know that Rondo is going to crush you next year, right? I mean, you get that, right? Or are you so delusional?

It's cute too the way Ray slices and dices his verbiage. Let's see, he doesn't say that the friction with Rondo didn't play a role in his decision. He can't SAY that it did. Presumably because he thinks it wouldn't be politic. Sweet Jesus (Shuttlesworth), you really are headed for the demonic realm of politics, aren't you?

Oh Lord, he didn't! He DIDN'T. HE DID!!!!

He said it was a "family" decision!! Yup anytime anyone does something bad, it's 'for the family', and if they do something truly terrible, it's 'for the children'.

it seems like what he really wants in life is a point guard he can kick around...

Wow.. I lost it because I had to go out for a while.. I'll wait for some details..
Reply paul
1:52 PM on July 11, 2012 
Cisco says...
This is so unbelievable!
Ray Allen just went out there and act non-professional. Not manly! Not classy!
He only ?texted? Paul and Kevin... Shame on you, Ray Allen!
Rondo just gave you (all of you) life! He gave you (all of you) more good basketball years! He simply does not deserve this crap, Ray Allen! He simply doesn't!
If it was for the game itself, you should have not bring this on the table.
Rondo? He will not say a thing... he will just play the game. That is class act.
Ray Allen? Not anymore!


I see some folks praising Allen for once again being professional, class act, all the rest. Really? Can so many people really not see passive aggression? This was a smooth talking hate fest by Allen, I'd say, and I have a lot more respect for honesty.

and not one word of thanks to the man who set up all those threes for you Ray?
Reply paul
1:53 PM on July 11, 2012 
Morena says...
Wow.. I lost it because I had to go out for a while.. I'll wait for some details..


He could have made peace, Morena. But I think what he did was make a big passive aggressive show of rubbing salt in the wounds.

My favorite part was Ray declaring that he was glad to go from Boston's old school offense to Miami's up temp offense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now THAT was shameless, brother Ray.
Reply Morena
1:57 PM on July 11, 2012 
paul says...
He could have made peace, Morena. But I think what he did was make a big passive aggressive show of rubbing salt in the wounds.

My favorite part was Ray declaring that he was glad to go from Boston's old school offense to Miami's up temp offense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now THAT was shameless, brother Ray.

I'm gonna look for the video of the interview even if I think I'm gonna throw up at this point..
Reply paul
2:01 PM on July 11, 2012 
Morena says...
I'm gonna look for the video of the interview even if I think I'm gonna throw up at this point..


Please tell us your take
Reply Morena
3:03 PM on July 11, 2012 
paul says...
Please tell us your take

Here I am, updated.
I think it will take me a couple of years writing a comment about all the s***t I've just read.
Let's start saying that I spent part of the interview laughing like "is this a joke or does he rally think I'm that stupid to believe this?" and part of it burning with fury.
The only sad part was KG saying that Danny would have done everything to bring Ray back. KG still believed in Allen loyalty. This make me really sad for KG. He must feel betrayed.

About Rondo... well.. that made me furious but it also made me laugh.
Allen didn't talked with him at all during the post season.. he just talked to KG and Paul because those are the guys with whom he shared the most during the years in Boston, also of the court.
Right.. I guess that when Rondo followed him like he was his own shadow the first 2/3 years they didn't talk to each other. When Rondo in an interview said that when he had problems he could call Ray, now I know that they spent hours on the phone without talking. Tha't useful.
He disrespected Rondo by saying him nothing about this thing before signing with the heat and he even said it in a press conference, so he disrespected him twice. If I were Rondo I would be so mad that I'd go straight to the gym to get up some three point shot.

I don't understand the real different that there is between him and Posey. When Posey left, they couldn't do anything to bring him back. And with him?? Oh right.. we had to offer three times the money he will earn in Miami and write in the contract that he will never sit on the bench. Boston really had a lot of choice.

He made me really laugh when he said "Going into this process, I never said whether I wanted to start or come off the bench. That wasn?t really an issue" No, right, that was not an issue. There were no doubt that he would have come off the bench.

Last thing I will say is about his family. Yes, he did what it's best for his family. Now his son can really grow under the great example of Le Ego e Le Thug. Can a father ask for anything better??

I'll stop here.
Thank you for asking and reading my opinion
Reply paul
3:17 PM on July 11, 2012 
That was so eloquent, Morena. You brought up so many good points, and said it so well. The most touching point is that Rondo used to be like Allen's kid brother, and yet Allen acts like Rondo wasn't even there at all, even when asked about Rondo point blank. It's so psychological and so sad, like being at a wedding and waiting to see which member of the family totally loses it. I think someone mentioned that Allen somehow managed to never even use Rondo's name. I'm not sure if that's true or not, as I haven't seen the full transcript.

But how does one measure the sheer chutzpa of Allen claiming that he actually looked forward to the Miami uptempo offense, after the Celtics slow offense?!! HE WAS THE REASON OUR OFFENSE WAS SLOW AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT!

You wonder if Allen really thinks anyone is buying his crap.

But it's sad that all these familial dynamics are taking place in front of the slickly smiling Pat Smear. What demented joy that man must be feeling right now.

But we'll wipe that smirk of his face next season. This Celtics team is going to be ferocious, and Rondo? I have a feeling he is going to make quite a point of having a reliable three next year. Miami pretty much spit in Boston's face, and Ray pretty much spit in Rondo's face. They will pay for that.