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Deal is off (of course) and Danny wants Doc back

Posted by shawn cassidy on June 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM



Well I think it's offical the deal is dead. What happens now? Who really wanted this trade? Will Doc come back or step down? Still many questions hang out there, and it's unclear if will the answers that we want.



Adrian Wojnarowski         @WojYahooNBA

Danny Ainge has called Doc Rivers to tell him that talks are done, sources tell Y! Sports. Ainge told him he still wants him as coach.



Also ESPN reports:



The Los Angeles Clippers informed the Boston Celtics on Tuesday morning they are pulling out of talks to acquire Kevin Garnett and Doc Rivers, sources told ESPN.

The teams have no plans to speak again, the sources said, and the Clippers are preparing to move on and hire a coach this week.

The talks broke down Tuesday morning when the Clippers "refused to budge" on Boston's latest proposal that asked for DeAndre Jordan, straight up for Garnett, and two first-round draft picks as compensation for allowing Rivers out of the final three-years and $21 million of his contract.

The Clippers will now go forward with second interviews of Byron Scott on Tuesday and Brian Shaw on Wednesday, where each will meet with owner Donald Sterling. Lionel Hollins had a two-day interview in which he met with Sterling last week.

Clippers sources say the team expects to hire a coach by the end of this week, or early next week.


I think Danny saying he called Doc up to see he wants him back was his way of doing damage control with the media a bit. It's hard for me to see Doc coming back after this point. Unless they spin it very well, which I don't know if they can.

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Reply rcraig617
1:35 PM on June 18, 2013 
Rondo isn't gonna look at doc or kg the same for even flirting with this. I honestly don't know where we go from here but for sure we better bring paul back. That will atleast take some attention away from this circus that we had going on but I wonder what free agents like josh smith and al jefferson are thinking about the celtics now i'm pretty sure the marguee free agents won't be considering a team with a coach that wants to leave mid contract. Either way I want to hear what rondo has to say and I don't really see him listening to doc after this and doc will be afraid to coach rondo because he knows if he coaches too hard rondo will have something slick to say.
Reply Greg
2:22 PM on June 18, 2013 
Doc will have to walk away. My biggest concern is KG, what was his part in all of this?
Reply paul
8:48 PM on June 18, 2013 
I'm glad the trade talks are over. It had devolved into an attempted rip off. Note to Danny: do not ever talk to the Clippers again. There's no dealing with them.

So now we are really in the crap. One can assume that Doc won't be back unless KG and Pierce both stay. That means we run it back. So that means Rondo gets to play scapegoat for yet another year. Great. Or he gets traded, which seems more likely at this point, as the apparent attempt of Kg, Doc and possibly PP to trade him in for Chris Paul, for the second time in three years, can't be overlooked it seems to me, and will almost have to exacerbate the split between Rondo and the rest of the team that appeared to happen this year. So is it plan B, now? Trade Rondo?

However one looks at it, this offseason could hardly have started in a more nauseating way.
Reply NeCsFan
1:11 AM on June 19, 2013 
paul says...
I'm glad the trade talks are over. It had devolved into an attempted rip off. Note to Danny: do not ever talk to the Clippers again. There's no dealing with them.

So now we are really in the crap. One can assume that Doc won't be back unless KG and Pierce both stay. That means we run it back. So that means Rondo gets to play scapegoat for yet another year. Great. Or he gets traded, which seems more likely at this point, as the apparent attempt of Kg, Doc and possibly PP to trade him in for Chris Paul, for the second time in three years, can't be overlooked it seems to me, and will almost have to exacerbate the split between Rondo and the rest of the team that appeared to happen this year. So is it plan B, now? Trade Rondo?

However one looks at it, this offseason could hardly have started in a more nauseating way.


Yeah, it will be more than interesting to see what happens next, They were saying on ESPN that the big losers in this deal are the Clippers. That Doc can most certainly explain to his guys the ins and outs of what happened when and if he comes back. A few of their "sports reporters" including Jackie Mac defended Doc for what to them was just a sensible move to coach a great player like Chris Paul with his veterans along for the ride. Ummm....? Color me confused, but did I miss something? For one, I am so over the fawning over Chris Paul. I'm not going to hate on his game, but seriously, he is not some super star upgrade over Rondo. People just really need to stop with that, Second, So is Doc just supposed to waltz back in look at all his young guys and be like "no hard feelings, right guys?!" And that's just talking to the guys who don't have the #9 on their Jersey. I don't think Rondo's dumb enough to say anything negative about Doc publicly, or even in game(I mean even when the Ray drama was going on, it certainly didn't effect whether or not Rondo found him on the court), but there is no doubt in my mind - especially with how Rondo has described himself - that this situation already has and will have a disastrous effect on their relationship. How could it not?! Especially when like you said, and we all know, Rondo will eventually and inevitably end up finding himself the scapegoat yet again. How anyone could think the Celtics are "winning" in this scenario is beyond me. I believe my exact words before were that this is a complete shit show. I'm pretty sure that's still the current state of affairs.
Reply paul
8:41 AM on June 19, 2013 
NeCsFan says...
Yeah, it will be more than interesting to see what happens next, They were saying on ESPN that the big losers in this deal are the Clippers. That Doc can most certainly explain to his guys the ins and outs of what happened when and if he comes back. A few of their "sports reporters" including Jackie Mac defended Doc for what to them was just a sensible move to coach a great player like Chris Paul with his veterans along for the ride. Ummm....? Color me confused, but did I miss something? For one, I am so over the fawning over Chris Paul. I'm not going to hate on his game, but seriously, he is not some super star upgrade over Rondo. People just really need to stop with that, Second, So is Doc just supposed to waltz back in look at all his young guys and be like "no hard feelings, right guys?!" And that's just talking to the guys who don't have the #9 on their Jersey. I don't think Rondo's dumb enough to say anything negative about Doc publicly, or even in game(I mean even when the Ray drama was going on, it certainly didn't effect whether or not Rondo found him on the court), but there is no doubt in my mind - especially with how Rondo has described himself - that this situation already has and will have a disastrous effect on their relationship. How could it not?! Especially when like you said, and we all know, Rondo will eventually and inevitably end up finding himself the scapegoat yet again. How anyone could think the Celtics are "winning" in this scenario is beyond me. I believe my exact words before were that this is a complete shit show. I'm pretty sure that's still the current state of affairs.


Doc can explain it to the players, NeC, but I think this will certainly impact his credibility with them nonetheless.

I've been seeing that argument too, the one from JackieMac that you mention. What it shows me is how happy such talking heads are to contort themselves in order to support some or other party line. The idea that it makes perfect rational sense for Doc to - it would seem - attempt to abandon his commitments in Boston, in order to go for a quick ring - that alone strikes me as ludicrous. And then there is this idea you mention, that Chris Paul is such an "upgrade" over Rondo - remember Rondo, the guy that Doc himself said was a basketball "genius"? - is just sheer nonsense. And then to think that all this will make no difference to Rondo?!

You really have said it best. Complete shit show. I was thinking last night about how much it is starting to nauseate me, and that was before Ray Allen's late game 'heroics'...